Mail Sack, 10-9-12 , Various topics

Friends,

Another round of mail on the last week’s topics;

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On the subject of alternators:

2850cc Zenith 750 builder and Pilot Jeff Cochran writes:

“I’ve had John Deere tractors since 1974. My ID photo on zenithaero is me on my new JD 5103 tractor (made in India). My new CH750 is green and yellow. But I am more than happy to have a Yanmar dynamo out front. I had to buy the regulator from JD, and while there asked to see their dynamo. The box does not look that much better, and the part was exactly the same except for price.
Jeff”

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On the subject of Florida Beavers and info sources:

 Builder Bruce Culver writes:

“Didn’t these clowns realize that Florida is several hundred miles long north to south, and that the northern part of the state is not at all tropical? My youngest brother lives in Jacksonville, and the first time I drove there to visit him years ago, there were so many pine trees I thought it looked like Germany without the mountains….. There is a lot more to Florida than Miami Beach.”

Builder Matt Lockwood writes:

“Your opening paragraph on this one made me think you ran afoul (pardon the pun) of the spark plug guy who may have been with the mob. “leave the spark plugs, take the cannolli”

 Builder Tom Griesemer writes:

“I have been reading a lot of your stuff lately as I have been researching Corvair flight engines for a while. As a retired prof of 30 years I like your style. Missed #23 and may come to #24.  Working on my 4th plane at the moment. Keep up the good work, Tom”

Zenith 750 builder and student of 6 colleges Dan Glaze writes:

“I tend to draw my info from a much smaller pool, It consists of William W., Dan W, Roy S. and Mark P. I would advise all Corvair engine builders to do the same and stop playing into the interned synthetic intelligence. That is if you are looking for success on your project. Just my two cents worth, Dan”

 2850cc 750 builder Gary Burdett writes:

“Yes , one “been there done that” is worth a hundred “I think’s”and even then, verify. That has been some of the education part of my EAB education and recreation experience.”

 Zenith 601XLB builder and flyer since 2005, Phil Maxon writes:

Great post. This is true. This is why I start all my posts with “This is what I did on my plane… ” or I don’t answer. There is a very strong desire on the part of Internet writers to comment on stuff and be “right.”

 Zenith 701 builder Terry Samsa writes:

“Must be a consequence of the global warming. I wonder when I’ll see alligators in my back yard up here in Northern Minnesota! :)

 Terry,  Why wait 25 years? We will mail you one, we have plenty-ww

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On the topic of spark plugs;

International man of mystery and DC-3 owner, Tom Graziano writes:

“William, Just because “Guys “A” and “B” have more than 10,000 flight hours between them” doesn’t necessarily mean they know anything about the mechanical aspects of aircraft and aircraft engines, troubleshooting, repair, etc. (that’s kinda like saying an aircraft mechanic with 30 years experience who is not a pilot would know a lot about flying). Having both – 30+ years & many thousands of hours – it is incredible how many times I’ve seen aircraft with simple, easily diagnosed and fixable discrepancies come in with pilot applied “fixes” that exacerbated the problem sometimes causing serious damage & expensive repairs. Not berating the two guys at all, simply saying that just because someone has a bunch of hours flying doesn’t mean they know anything about maintenance or troubleshooting. Tom”

Good point Tom, I just wanted to point out that people who already know that aviation is all about the detail being correct sometimes get a little careless about this as the experience builds up. Thanks for the perspective-ww

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On the topic of trucks vs planes;

Builder P.J. (USN) writes:

“Loved the story about the old pickup truck, At least you live on the east coast where they don’t stick a probe up your tailpipe every year to check for noxious gases. Long live the carburetted 350 but I gotta ask, what would your second choice be? sign me antique air-cooled vanagon driver”

 P.J., We still have Grace’s Greenbriar Van, so were of the same air cooled van idea as you. I still have my ’66 Corvair and Grace drives her CTS-V every day., But we are doing better, the score at our house is cars and trucks 5, planes 4.-ww

Another new “Zenvair” 601XLB, Jim Ballew, 2700cc

Friends,

I got a quick note from Jim Ballew yesterday saying that his 601 XLB took to the air on Corvair power. Today he had a chance to send me a photo. Jim’s name is known in the Corvair movement for good reason….He now has three Corvair powered planes. This Zenith Joins Jim’s 500 hour DA-2 and his Pietenpol.  Wondering if a Corvair is the right engine for your project? When old school builders have them on a trio of their creations, it’s probably a good choice.

Above, Jim’s 601 on the day of its first flight.

I have to go back and look at the records, but I am pretty sure that it is the 60th Zenith 601/650 to fly on Corvair power. In the last 30 days we have had two other Zeniths make their first flights, and we will have updates on them shortly. Combine this with new Pietenpols and a Merlin, and we have been averaging one new Corvair powered plane a week since Oshkosh. A year ago a negative internet personality predicted a decline in Corvair popularity because “only a limited number of people want to get their hands dirty.”  Well, things are not going as Nostradamus Jr. predicted. Corvairs are not for everyone, but there is no shortage of traditional homebuilders, people interested in learning, craftsmanship and pride in making something yourself.  Everyone who has met Jim over the years understands that he is an outstanding example of the gregarious, friendly, salt of the earth builders that exemplify the Corvair movement. I look forward to having Jim at a number of events in 2013 where builders new to the Corvair movement can meet one of its most exceptional builders.

Jim sent us this note with the photo:

Grace and William;

FINALLY. Made the first flight of my CH601XL today at 1535. 2700,40 over with a Dan 5th bearing. Engine ran flawless. All temps stayed in the green. A couple of tweeks on the plane all will be great. Thanks for all the great info you provide and the fantastic parts you provide.

 Have a great evening, I’ve had a fantastic day:):):)

 Jim Ballew

pietn38b@aol.com

 

For a look at Jim’s Pietenpol, look at this link to our website:

http://www.flycorvair.com/ballewpt.html

For a look at Jim’s Davis DA-2, look at this link to our website: 

http://www.flycorvair.com/ballewda.html

-ww

Outstanding Value on new Alternators, (Dynamos) $125.

Friends,

Mike Schwab is a Vision builder working on a 3,000cc Corvair for his plane. He and his wife attended Corvair College #23, and they are regulars at Sun n Fun. In his day job, Mike is an expert on Marine engines, and specifically knows Yanmar Diesels.

Why should you care? Because he offers a great deal through his business to any Corvair builder in need of a Dynamo.  At $125 he is less than 1/3 the price that John Deere wants for the same part. This unit directly bolts on our front alternator brackets and is flying on countless Corvair powered aircraft. The unit is also the basis of the direct drive rear alternator the Dan and I are working on.

I am fully aware that publicly revealing that smaller models of the sacred Green and Yellow divine brand of tractor comes with a Yanmar engine can result in having a Fatwa against me issued from the sacred headquarters of the divine Green tractor in Moline Illinois. When I have pointed out that dealers for Deere have massively marked up their prices, I have been attacked by rabid fans of the green brand, who actually claimed that Deere parts are better, but this is the dogma of the indoctrinated, a mantra they were taught to repeat at the mention of other brands. I have held both dynamos in my hands at the same time, and they are both made in the same place in Japan by Kokosan-Denki. The only difference is the box and the price.  (Full disclosure: I own a Case tractor, drink Dunkin Donuts coffee and drive a Chevy truck. No kidding,  the last time I was trying to buy a dynamo at the Deere lawn care dealer, a guy drove in a Range Rover with a Starbucks travel mug in hand, wearing a cardigan.  jokingly I said “One of us is in the wrong place.”  When I refused to pay $396 for the dynamo, Mr. Starbucks leaned over and whispered “It’s you.”)

Mike also has a good deal on the matching voltage regulator. You can check the parts out on the link to Mike’s site below:

http://www.seafarermarinesupply.com/yanmar-diesel-parts-2.htm

Mike is headed to Corvair College#24 and has offered to bring Alternators that are ordered in advance with him. For builders not able to make it to the College, Mike is willing to ship for a modest fee. Every one interested should contact Mike directly at:

info@mikessynoil.com

 Mikes regular Email and Vision building sites are listed below:

www.mikessynoil.com
www.vision087.info

Hats off to Mike Schwab for making aircraft building a little more affordable. -ww

Second “Zenvair”, the McDaniel’s 2700cc 601XLB

Friends,

Shayne & Phyllis McDaniel have just finished and started flying their second Corvair powered Zenith. They are both accomplished pilots and builders. Having a second “Zenvair” keeps them from having to figure out who gets to be PIC.  Now they both can be at the same time.

Shayne & 601 N809SP

Shayne stands in front of their second Corvair powered Zenith. The first one they built was a 650.  Not just any 650, it was the first amateur built one licensed by the FAA. After it was complete, they began looking for a second plane so the could have ‘his and hers’ models. I built the 2700cc/Dan bearing engine that is on the 650, but for round two Shayne and Phyllis decided to assemble the engine themselves, and it is virtually a clone of the 650 engine. Both aircraft utilize all of our Zenith installation Components.

 Second airframe was started by Corvair/Zenith builder from California. I had met the guy at a west coast College. A nice enough person, but he had a bit of a ‘glass half empty’ perspective. This builder worked on the kit a bit, but eventually decided he wasn’t getting anywhere. In my opinion, the lack of progress on his project could have been credited to many of the decisions he made. He put the plane up for sale. If the project seemed insurmountable to this guy, it seemed like a good deal and an easy completion to Shayne. One man’s mountain is another man’s molehill. We are not talking about a financial barrier. What we’re really talking about here is a positive attitude problem, something that doesn’t seem to affect Shayne.

My heart goes out to any serious builder who has to part with his project for legitimate financial reasons. This happens, and it’s never pretty. Other builders after giving it a shot, decide that it doesn’t fit into their lifestyle, and this is okay too. But when a builder is surrounded by positive examples, has the financial capability and still sees it as un-doable, the story is different. Every one is entitled to down days and frustrating moments, but there are a great number of people who start kits, but never make progress. Often they are far more inclined to blame the kit or some other factor than see their own perspective as the culprit. A common characteristic that many of these people have is making a roadblock out of some small issue which they will not get past. One of my favorite sayings is “the difference between adventure and ordeal is attitude.” People with positive attitudes can do some really impressive things.

Shayne is a very accomplished pilot and flight instructor, and has built another aircraft before his Zenith 650. He is the kind of guy would never bring this up in discussion, but everyone who has met the man in person understands that these impressive accomplishments have been achieved by a man who has only one hand. He has my profound respect. Clearly he
does not build, nor accept, obstacles between himself and success.

Above, Shayne & Phyllis with their 650 at the 2012 Zenith open house. This aircraft was seen by thousands of builders at its Oshkosh debut, it displays outstanding workmanship.

During a year, a number of builders will take a moment to personally tell me they find the work we do in support of the Corvair movement, particularly the writing component, motivational or thought-provoking. Generally, I listen and hear their perspective, and politely say “thank you.” If the setting and the moment allows, I try to take the time to explain to these builders that all of the things I write about come from knowing many different aviators, people I truly find inspirational, people worthy of serious consideration and appreciation for their accomplishments.  All of the credit actually belongs to them. My only part in the equation it writing it down and trying to share it with other builders.

If any builder would like a singular example of a builder that I personally find inspirational, they can directly look to the accomplishments and positive perspective of Shayne McDaniel.

Hats off to Shayne & Phyllis on their completion of these second Corvair powered Zenith.-ww

New “Zenvair-750”, Jeff Cochran, 2,850cc engine, N750ZV

Friends,

Jeff Cochran of Alabama has been flying his Zenith 750 on Corvair power for the last few weeks. Below is a quick look at the plane and Jeff  with his running 2850cc Corvair at CC#19. I spoke with him recently and he is planning on flying the plane to Corvair College #24 if he can get the test time flown off.

Pink Ticket

Above, Jeff on the left on the day he passed his airworthyness inspection. The plane displays outstanding finish and appearance. In working with Jeff I can attest to his methodical and professional approach to aircraft construction. He asked very specific questions that reveal a lot of thought and reasearch.

 Jeff  supervises the run-in of his 2850cc Corvair at Corvair College #19. Jeff chose to have us build the engine for him. We delivered it at the College #19. The engine features a RoysGarage.com bearing, the 2850 cc dished pistons, all of our Gold Systems, and Falcon heads equipped with Inconel valves and exhaust rotators. This is a seriously robust engine. The Zenith 750 is a large airplane capable of climbing at very low airspeeds. This combination makes it brutally unforgiving on engines with inadequate cooling or light duty construction. The Corvair’s outstanding cooling and high quality components make it impervious to installations that are the undoing of lighter engines.

Although we assembled the engine for him, Jeff has invested the time to attend Colleges #16, #17,#19, and #21. Because of this, he knows his engine far better than builders who opt for a ‘Buy-it-in-a-box’ imported engine. I wouldn’t characterize Jeff’s Corvair college experiences as purely educational, if you look at the photos from these colleges there was a lot of fun mixed in with it. Jeff’s path to success high lights the Corvair’s flexibility to adapt to the needs, budgets and time lines of individual builders. With other engines, builders have to accept the power plant the way that it is offered, and pay for it all at once. No such condition exists in the Corvair movement. You can tailor it to fit your individual goals.

Thinking of getting started? Haven’t made enough progress this year? The most common thread in the stories of successful Corvair builders is attending a College. We are 33 days from the last College of 2012. Make your plans now, decide to head for Corvair College #24.

Hats off to Jeff Cochran on the completion and first flights of his Zenith 750.-ww

Internet “experts” on Yahoo, the value of advice…..

Friends,

Just after I finished the story on spark plugs, there was a loud knock on our back door. This is very unusual at night at our place.  It was our next door neighbor Alan. He was short of breath, had a flash light and said only “Come with me.”

It is overcast and pitch dark out here in the country. It rained 5″ in 40 minutes here yesterday, and the whole area is flooded except for the roads.  I was a little reluctant to follow him, as he had seen a 4 foot water moccasin slither into our pond 3 days ago, and I first thought that Alan had seen him again, in which case I was much more interested in having a Mossberg product than a Maglite product.

Turns out, it was a cause for wonder, not alarm. We walked out to the drainage ditch, and Alan showed me 3 large Beavers, swimming back and forth like motorboats. I was stunned. I had never seen one in Florida, and textbooks on wildlife written years ago said that Florida and Hawaii were the only states without them. Yet, right in front of our eyes, 12 feet away, they swam back and forth, and didn’t care about the flashlight nor us.

After 15 minutes, we thought is best to leave them alone. Back inside, I typed “Beavers in Florida” into Google to see what was there. The very first thing that comes up is the same thing that often does, the “Yahoo answers”, where experts write in the answers, and other Yahoo readers vote to confirm which answer is the correct one,  Majority confirming the obviously correct answer……

The most popular, and thus correct answer, was provided by an alleged human named “Sisyphus.” This person holds the coveted “Top Contributor” status with Yahoo, and lists Zoology as his subject. This name wrote in to say “NO, NOT a Tropical animal.” 75% of Yahoo readers confirmed this as the correct answer, “Sisyphus” evidently answers lots of topics with such expertise, as 14,000 people voted his answers on topics as the correct ones. What a beautifully simple display of group networking, and people pooling intelligence! I was momentarily tempted to write Al Gore thanking him for inventing the Internet until I remembered that I had just seen 3 Beavers, they were not dressed as tourists, and we are 75 miles inside of Florida.

On “Yahoo answers”, one person wrote in to say that there are beavers in florida. They offered a brief from the Florida State wildlife site, and gave footnotes on reports. He stated that there were beavers in Florida. Exactly ONE Yahoo reader agreed with this. It was the “wrong” answer in the world according to Yahoo. Below, is the paragraphs from the Florida State site. This answer is further down Google than the Yahoo answer, and required reading more than 5 words for an answer.

“Today the beaver thrives along many of the perennial streams and rivers that course through the landscape of the Florida panhandle and upper peninsula. As architects of wetlands, beavers provide habitat for nesting wood ducks, migratory waterfowl, otters, turtles and fishes.”

“In northern Florida beaver dams may block drainage systems and flood roads, crops, and timberland. Hungry beavers occasionally chew down ornamental trees and venture into fields to feed on crops like sorghum and corn. Wire or hardware cloth fencing at least 3.5ft (1.2 m) high may prevent damage of valuable trees. Daily destruction of dams and removal of dam building materials sometimes will cause a beaver colony to abandon an area. The insertion of water control structures into existing beaver dams can be effective at preventing excessive flooding. Problems beavers may be trapped and relocated but permits from the FWC are required from the regional office. “

How does this relate to airplane building? You can not imagine how many times in the last ten years I have seen homebuilders take advice on building planes and engines from the internet using essentially the same system, ie, ask a big group of nameless people, and assume that the popular answer must be the one to bet your life on. On every facet of aircraft building, I have seen countless builders assume that the answer they read, even when they have never met, nor heard of the “expert”, is correct. Over many years it was my position that aviation internet groups should have limits or qualifications on “advice” that people without experience offer. Counter to my position were hordes of people who claimed that this was the same thing as Stalin style censorship. They all said they if they asked a question, they wanted to hear every answer, and then they would decide what the correct anser was from the options presented.

Obviously, that is nearly the exact equivalent of Yahoo answers, only in this case, going with the wrong answer has some real consequences. I always tried to point out that if you were qualified to sort out the real answer from all the made up ones, then obviously you wouldn’t have needed to ask the question in the first place………I have seen no shortage of people offering incorrect answers to aviation questions. Be careful from who you ask answers, you have a lot at stake.-WW

Spark Plug Issue resolved…..

Friends,

Earlier this week we had a number of posts on the issue of spark plugs, centered on a hard miss under full power experienced by Guy “A.” I had another two calls with him after he changed to AC R44F plugs that were gapped to .035″. He now reports that the issue appears to be resolved, and he could not get the aircraft to act up as it had before.

In this case, it is worth noting that Guy “A” had previously flown his plane with NGK plugs with out issue. Was the issue the gap, the dirty condition or?  In my perspective, he likely could have gone back to a new set of NGK’s  correctly gapped and the issue would have likely disappeared. But. you have to ask yourself, by what margin?

I advocate the AC plugs because they are the ones designed for the engine, and GM owned both AC and Corvair. This is my beginning point, but the strongest case I can make is that I have never seen an issue in a Corvair flight engine caused by an AC plug. Because of our central location on the flow of information on Corvairs, I have access to many more case histories than any single builder, in addition to our own testing, and a lot of road miles for comparison. I have good evidence that the AC plugs will work perfectly under a wider range of conditions in a Corvair flight engine than any other plug that builders commonly consider.

If you work outside the engine world, it is often easy to forget some concepts that seem simple on paper, but are often forgotten in a frustrating search for an issue in the hangar. Rule#1 is always Go Back to what you know will work. If you have an issue like a hiccup, and part of your set up is different from the norm, then reset your engine to the norm. In this case, the plugs we are speaking of cost a whopping $9.00 for the whole set. If you have an issue with two variables, or what you suspect are two variables, being able to absolutely eliminate one of the for nine bucks is a diagnosis tool that only a foolish mechanic would not utilize. In the aviation world, you can’t let something like brand loyalty to plugs that worked in your motorcycle color your perspective. Your allegiance has to belong to what works. Experimentation is good, but it always has to be done as the expansion of the envelope from a set up that works perfectly. If what you have doesn’t work flawlessly, then fall back to the known until it does. A number of guys resist this, which would be fine if we were shade tree car guys wrenching on hot rods. But this is flying, and it can be for keeps, and most professionals don’t fool around with biases, brand loyalties nor reasons of ego or saving face.

Many experimentals have a lot of outstanding details. But good aircraft are not made of 99% excellent. They are made of 100% airworthy. The plane having the issue is outstanding, you could easily call it 99% excellent. But with a 1% detail like the incorrect plugs gapped wrong or dirty, it is not 100% airworthy. As builders, it is important to get the basics 100% right. I included the Guy “B” story to illustrate that this spark plug story isn’t a Corvair story at all. A nearly identical mistake in reverse on a certified aircraft produced the same result, a plane, that until the detail is corrected, is not airworthy. Both pilots made a simple mistake and missed a basic element. One of the things I would like to point out is that Guys “A” and “B” have more than 10,000 flight hours between them. Would a beginner have made the same mistake? Could have, but I have been training people to build engines a long time, and in my experience, new guys are very detail oriented because they take nothing for granted. If you think about human nature, you can see how guys with a lot of time around different kinds of planes may get complacent about details. If your new to planes and engines, don’t let this story spook you. If you just approach this in the proven format and not add creative touches like other brands of plugs, you will not have this kind of issue. Arm chair commentators will find that last sentence boring or manipulative. For those of us who will fly something other than a key board or an arm-chair, I point out that reliability is supposed to be more boring than unnecessary risk, and yes, I am trying to convince people to at least start with proven set ups.

One of the people I keep counsel with on Corvair experience is Dan Weseman. I was speaking with him about CC#24 plans when this issue came up. He commented to me that he had never had a single issue, even once, with an ACR44F plug, and they have been the only ones he has ever flown in a Corvair. Arguably, no one has flown the Corvair harder than Dan. He pointed out that the AC’s not only work flawlessly, they are also the least expensive plug on the market. He didn’t really see any motivation for working with any other plug.

In an average year, I will get 200 emails asking about things like constant speed props and elaborate injection systems. If you read all of them, it is easy to tell that 95% of these come from people with little experience. If I lined up these 95% and asked them to install a distributor and time it, or to explain to me how you could tell if the engine was on the top of the exhaust stroke of compression by looking at the motion of the rockers,(both things we teach at Colleges,) I am sure these people would be at a loss. Is there anything wrong with their dreaming of injected constant speed planes? Of course not…if the extent of what they came to aviation to do is dream about things. Conversely, if actually achieving things is the goal, dreaming can not take the place of a rock solid foundation of the basics.

None of us were born knowing this stuff. I am glad to teach it to anyone who wishes to learn instead of day dreaming. I can make a very good argument that the builder who creates and masters the operation of a basic aircraft, is a lot safer, and will experience far greater rewards that any builder operating a plane he really doesn’t understand, or is sketchy on the details of a complex aircraft’s function. The guy with the most basic plane has won the game. The guy who consigns himself to daydreaming has not lost the game…..he wasn’t ever playing.  Once the basics are mastered, then moving forward can be done with the understanding that you are not posing or posturing as your own mechanic, you actually have earned the confidence in yourself, the real reward for knowing the subject. -ww

Copper State Fly in, AZ, oct. 25-27.

Friends,

For builders in the southwest, Copper State Fly in will see at least two Corvair powered planes, and have forums on Corvairs presented with Contributions by Corvair builder/pilots Andy Elliot and Woody Harris. Pat Panzera from Contact! magazine, a long time supporter of Corvair power will be organizing the engine forums and on hand at the Contact! display all weekend.

In our booth at Oshkosh 2011, I stand with three of the pilots who flew in their Corvair powered Zeniths. From left to right, Shayne McDaniels who flew in a 2700cc CH 650 from Missouri, Woody Harris in a 2850cc CH 601B from California, and Andy Elliott in a 3100cc CH 601B from Arizona. Woody and Andy will both be at Copper State 2012 with their aircraft. Woody, as our “man on the west coast”, will have our manuals and DVDs with him for sale. Both of these guys can answer technical questions on engine building and operation.-ww

Quality Sport Planes open house, CA, this weekend.

Friends,

Builders in the northern California area can get together this weekend at the Quality Sport planes open house. QSP is Zenith’s west coast facility, located in Cloverdale. It is run by Doug and Lori Dougger, well-known through out the Zenith community for their expertise and hospitality. I just saw Doug and Lori at the Zenith open house, and they were looking forward to this weekend. QSP was also the location for Corvair Colleges #10 and #11. I think it is one of the best grass-roots airports in the US. There is more info on the QSP site:

http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/index.html

On hand at this event will be Woody Harris, our “Man on the West Coast.”  When it comes to our efforts with the Corvair movement, Woody has long been the most experienced builder on the West Coast. He has his own highly successful 601XL and he was instrumental in the success of 4 of the 5 Corvair Colleges we have held in California. He has flown a Corvair powered plane in more states than anyone else, and his 50 year international career in the motor sports world gives him a very strong background with engine building. Additionally, he’s a hell of a guy to have a beer with at the end of the day…..

Woody will have a selection of our manuals and DVD’s on hand, along with some samples of Corvair conversion parts. He usually has some good leads on core engines in his area, and he knows most of the California Corvair builders pretty well. Don’t miss this chance to meet him in person, and find your own place in the Corvair movement.

In the above photo, Woody Harris’ 2,850cc Zenith 601B sits at the end of the ramp in North Carolina at First Flight Airport with the Wright Brothers Monument in the background. There is a longer piece about Woody’s work with Corvairs at the link below:    

http://flycorvair.net/wp-admin/post.php?post=250&action=edit 

-ww

Running an Engine at a College, required items. #1

Friends,

Several builders headed to Corvair College #24 next month have asked what their engines need to get a run in on the stand. Here is a quick list of the things that the stand comes equipped with, and a second list of the things your engine needs. Below are several photos of running engines on the stand from past colleges. There are photos of more than 100 different engines running on our stand on our main website, Flycorvar.com. Decide today that your engine is going to be one of them, and head to the college to make progress like these builders have.

Above, at College #21, Delton Perry just after the first run of his 2700cc engine. Delton is also pictured in our Zenith open house post recently. This is a good photo illustrating that building your engine feels a little different that buying one….

Items that the run stand is equipped with:

A full exhaust system An air box that covers any front starter engine an ignition system that has everything but a distributor. (the stand has its own cap and plug wires) Instrumentation for oil pressure and temp and rpm, A battery and starter switch, engine mounting bushings and bolts. An intake that works with both stock heads and one that works with welded on pipes. The stand has its own MA3 carb, fuel tank, air cleaner and throttle. The stand has its own propeller and mounting bolts.

Things which your engine needs to run: (beyond the obvious stuff)

A distributor, (either e/p or dual points), valve covers with a breather arrangement, a starter with ring gear, etc, (the stand has run engines with rear starters, but it requires a lot of additional parts, you must call me in advance if you want to try this. We have not run a rear start engine since college 9 or 10). If you have a bolt on intake pipe joint at the head which is not a stock GM casting, you need to call me in advance so we can have you make a set of adaptors. Builders all need an oil filter, 5 quarts of Shell Rotella T 15W-40, and a bottle od ZDDP additive from Clark’s or other source.  (We have all the oil priming tools for the test stand, you don’t need a drill nor a dummy shaft.) If your engine has a 5th bearing, you need an oil line for it, I bring parts to make these hoses, if you have your own parts, I will make it on the spot with you. Engines running on the stand typically do not use an oil cooler. If you have a system that uses a stock 12 plate, we are going to run it with the cooler in place. If you have a HD oil system with one of our sandwich adaptors,  we have a bypass hose to eliminate the cooler for the first run. ( We want the oil to come to temp quickly. The engine in the prop blast without a cowl does not heat up the oil to the point of having to have a cooler. If you have one of our Pre-gold oil systems, oil top covers, call me before the college, I can make arrangements to run this also. (It is out of date, but we still support it)

 

 Above, Steve Sims lies in “Superman” position on the back of my truck in the 125 mph prop blast of his newly running engine at CC#17 in FL in 2010. Building and flying planes is good fun to be had in the middle of learning and enjoying the company of fellow builders. Many aviation tech seminars are little more than power point presentations in the Holiday in Banquet room, hosted by salesmen in clip on ties. Corvair Colleges are a little more fun than that.

Ron Lendon, First run at CC#17. He flew this engine in his 601 to Oshkosh this year. Getting your engine running is an important milestone on the path to success.

Bob Lester at CC#17, he ran his engine at night, when it was good and chilly in the prop wash. This engine is now flying on Bob’s Pietenpol, and he is already registered to fly into CC#24.

Steve Makish at CC#17, learned from Bob’s night run and ran his engine during the warmth of the day.  Steves engine is now flying on his KR-2.