Corvair Cooling, Three 2007 examples from our hangar.


Here are a few more observations on cooling. One of the central themes here is what we have proven to work over years of building and testing -vs- what some people perceive to be factual. First, because of the expanding nature of the Corvair movement, we will always have a steady stream of new arrivals who need to read up on what has already been accomplished and long proven. Most new builders are eager to do this, and our main page is the primary resource for this study. There is a minority of new arrivals that will find out about the corvair on Monday, skim the first page on our site, and commence to send me 6 or 8 text messages a day from their black berry or ipad, questions that could be answered with a few minutes of reading. Often, if I don’t answer them by Wednesday, they ask other people on net discussion groups, Thursday they send out messages asking if I am still in business and Friday they post a long story to the web about how rotten I am and how they just sent a big check…to a Unicorn breeder.

Those people are hard to help, but people willing to learn mostly invest the time to see what has been done, and this continuous learning cycle is part of my job, and I am glad to do it with any builders willing to learn. This is part of the normal path to successful building. These people can read about planes like the three examples we built below, and learn why their cooling systems work great. However, there is also a second type of perspective. This is a guy who has a specific view in his head, like “Corvairs have unsolved heat problems,” and he is going to try to find data to support it, all the while ignoring all the examples we built and flew and the builder clones of these examples that are out flying today. Changing the perspective of a guy who looks at the world in such a prejudiced way is very difficult.

People like this have an attachment to their perspective that is not softened by facts nor data. I will try once or twice, but beyond that, my work is confined to presenting data that shows these people are wrong, and prevents them from derailing the building process of other people who are making progress. One of the things I have learned about people in the last two decades is that the people who perceive these types of problems and ignore proven data to the contrary are very unlikely to ever finish a plane. That is their problem. If you are a regular builder and your working to build and fly your plane, your only concern is to learn to detect and avoid this type of person and not let their problem become yours.  Below are three examples of aircraft that were built or finished by my “Hangar Gang” at our old hangar in Edgewater FL in 2007.  All three used our standard cowlings and cooling methods. This is information that is more than five years old, and plenty of people have seen these aircraft from Coast to coast in the US. This is what is known as physical proof.

In the above photo, Gordon Alexander’s 3,100cc Pegzair complete and running has just passed its FAA Airworthiness Inspection.  Gordon brought the project down on a trailer from Minnesota to the main hangar in Edgewater, where he commenced a savage 14-hours a day for 100 days to finish it. Inspired by his commitment, Gus, Kevin and I each worked to assist him. This is a very large corvair powered plane, it is a true STOL type with automatic leading edge slats, and it will fly below 40 mph. It is very draggy, and it had no problem cooling. I flew the plane, and it worked well after only a few small tweaks. It has an MA3 carb and a very quiet exhaust. It did not use inlet rings and it has a front alternator. The person who told me on the phone that he thought slow planes “had heat issues” knew about this plane but chose to ignore it’s sucess because it didn’t fit his pre-conceived model of reality. Thats ok because reality works weither or not every armchair expert agrees with it or not.

Above is a shot of Rick Lindstrom’s 601XL with its complete paintjob outside our hangar in 2007. The prop is a Sensenich 64×41. The carb is a MA3. This aircraft has flown all over the US. It has been in FL, Southern California and to Washington state. It has been seen by builders at the Sun n Fun, Arlington and Copper State (AZ) airshows. It even won the best engine trophy. A number of pilots have flown it long distances Like Rick, Amy Choi, Woody Harris and Michael Heintz. It flew across the US in the middle of a heat wave that showed outside air temps above 105F at 9,500 feet. The plane was flying at a special gross of 1425 pounds for the flight. It was climbed under these conditions at wide open throttle for over 50 minutes without pause after a number of fuel stops. This climb was flown at airspeeds near 65 mph. Yet it never over heated nor detonated, period. It has the exact same cooling system that we teach builders to install on their Zeniths. Physics doesn’t play favorites. It works here, and if you build a copy of this, it will work on your plane. Let anyone who thinks we don’t know how to cool a Corvair explain the history of this aircraft….they can’t.

A look at our 701 testbed in the Zenith booth at Sun ‘N Fun.2010. The plane was finished in the old hangar in 2007.  In 2010, Dan Weseman and I worked to upgrade the aircraft with one of his 5th bearings. This aircraft is capable of very slow climbs at high power. It is a cooling challenge. When we first finished the plane it had an aerocarb on it. This was later changed to an Ellison. We tuff tested the cowl and made a number of small tweaks. The only serious issue we had with the plane running hot was caused by the owner resetting the ignition timing without a light. This corrected, the plane worked fine, and a number of well-known Corvair pilots like Gus Warren, Arnold Holmes and Dan Weseman flew the plane. This aircraft had the first Gold Oil Fliter housing flown.

A negative person could claim we had to work some to make this plane fly cool, but reality says that is why there are 40 hour test periods, that is why we build and test things ourselves instead of using builders as guinea pigs, and lets not forget, this is why we use timing lights to set timing. This aircraft worked and cooled itself, and any 701 builder who made a clone of the configuration of this aircraft would have it work for him also. If you are new to Corvairs, and going through the learning cycle, keep in mind that you may hear of examples that didn’t work (that didn’t use our data or meathods) or you may hear from people who are willfully ignoring aircraft we have built and publicly demonstrated to work. If you let them deter you, you are allowing them to rob you of a chance to finish and fly your plane. What will you get as a consolation prize? you get to be nothing more than a supporter of a person who’s claims can be shown to be false just by looking at the above three photos. Some of these people will pose as experts just trying to “help” you with your plane. You need only ask them to show you the Corvair powered planes that were finished and flown out of their hangar. They will have nothing to show.-ww

There is a quote that comes to mind when dealing with people who will not openly observe things that we show to work, nor even acknowledge the existence of these planes, in the dogged need to keep their pet belief:

“If a man, holding a belief which he was taught in childhood or persuaded of afterwards, keeps down and pushes away any doubts which arise about it in his mind, purposely avoids the reading of books and the company of men that call into question or discuss it, and regards as impious those questions which cannot easily be asked without disturbing it–the life of that man is one long sin against mankind.” -William Clifford

Mail Sack 11-2-12, Panther engine, cooling systems.


Here is a sampling from the mail sack.

On the running Panther engine, 601XL builder, CC#3 host Oscar Zuniga writes:

“It’s a beautiful thing, and November 1 will be a red-letter day on the Corvair calendar from now on. When I clicked on the engine run video and listened to a minute of monotony, at first I was disappointed but then I realized that THIS IS PRECISELY HOW WE WANT AIRCRAFT ENGINES TO RUN… monotonously, reliably, steadily, strongly, and without a skip or hiccup or a dip or blip of any of the needles on the instruments. Beautiful. After that crank runs enough hours to prove the engineering and concept, it should be made into a permanent display for engine lovers everywhere.-oz”

Pietenpol builder Harold Bickford writes:

“William, I’m glad to see the effort Dan and you have put in displayed with a running engine. It will be interesting to watch Dan’s flight test program with the new crankshaft. At the builder/customer level that means that as long as a good crankcase and set of cylinder heads are available that the Corvair has a long service life ahead with all of the other parts and spares readily available…See the USA in your Chevrolet indeed. (ok, Pietenpol/Corvair one day)-Harold.”

Zenith 750 builder and 7 time college grad Dan Glaze, aka ‘Dan-o’ writes:

“Very cool Dan, speaking of cool, where is your coat?? only 41 here is Ohio today CC-24 here I come, Dan-o”

Zenith 750 builder and CC#22 grad Blaine Schwartz writes:

“William and Dan, Congrats on the Panther first run! After working that hard, what a thrill for it to run so well. It sounds great! Thanks for blazing the trail for the rest of us! Now I can look forward to my next Corvair having a Gen 2 crank!-Blaine.”

Blaine, all the credit for the crank development goes to Dan, I just helped him bolt it together and run it. I have known Dan for almost 10 years, and he keeps getting smarter at a frightening pace. It reminds me of the original Star Trek episode “Where no man has gone before,” the one where Kirk’s friend becomes psychically all powerful. Fortunately Dan was born in 1975 and never saw the story so he doesn’t know that in the future I am going to maroon him on an asteroid to protect humanity.-ww

California builder Lauren Williams writes:

“Great Update! Really shows your enormous progress. Congratulations to Dan and Rachel as things are coming together.-Lauren.”

Prolific aircraft builder Tom Griesemer writes:

“Fantastic. Sign me up.”


On the subject of cooling systems, Aero-engineer and 601XL builder and flyer Andy Elliott writes:

“I definitely agree with following the proven path whenever possible, and also deviating the minimal amount when not. Since every homebuilt airplane is unique in some way, some small deviations will probably always be required.
I recently gave a couple of well-attended presentations at the Copperstate Fly-In about Corvair flight engines, helped out by Woody Harris. During these presentations, I talked about lessons learned along the way to 500 hours on my 601XL and it’s very-Gen-1 3100. At the end of this lessons learned section, it was clear that most all the difficulties were caused by “less than optimal” operator choices :(, and I put this recommendation for up on the screen:

“If there is design, operational and/or maintenance guidance provided by
people who know what they’re doing, I strongly suggest you follow it!”

Like William, “I reserve the right to get smarter!”
Andy Elliott
505 hours since 11/08


Panther Engine Is Alive … ALIVE


As I type this, the sun is setting in Florida. 30 minutes ago the 120 hp, 3,000cc Corvair for the The Weseman Panther was completing a 1 hour break in run in our front yard. It started after 3 seconds of cranking and ran flawlessly for a 65 minute progressive break in run. This is the first engine with Dan’s American made billet crankshaft.

Above, Dan and I stand next to the running engine and cover important technical topics like the fact that Rachel made pot roast and said we could all eat dinner over at their place after the engine run as done. I would like to say there was some drama involved, but in reality the engine cranked right up, ran steady, we monitored all the temps and the oil pressure, which hardly fluctuated during the hour. It all went just as good engineering is supposed to: No surprises. At the end of the run Dan did give in a little and say that he was pleased with the turn out. We have a very full week of work heading into College #24, so there will be no pause to celebrate. We will be going  back to the shop after dinner to prep more parts for the College.-ww

Here is a video of the Panther engine on the test stand:

Corvair Cooling, something of a human issue…..


The following is a brief look at how human nature intersects experience with aircraft cooling systems. The Corvair has outstanding cooling, and this has been documented countless times, but the poor performance of a handful of badly thought out planes colors the perception of some people. I can present logic, engineering, experience and specific data. In cases of popular aircraft like Pietenpols and Zeniths, we have literally dozens of examples of how the Corvair, as we teach people to build it, has an excellent cooling track record. Most builders will listen and learn. A handful will not, and they will spend a lot of time ignoring all the success stories and focus on the few that willingly chose not to follow the models we painstakingly developed as good proven examples.

Above is the Panther engine, a solid 120hp power plant. Because the corvair in the car made up to 180HP from 164 cid at 5,200 rpm and we are only asking 120HP  from 183 cid at 3,200 rpm, the Corvair is essentially “flat-rated” for reliability. The engine performance number that best reflects this is the outstanding cooling of the corvair flight engine. Flight Corvairs operate at a fraction of their 575F CHT limit rating. We have countless aircraft flying that verify the validity of flat rating an auto engine, although we are the only popular engine in the experimental market place that does this. Running an engine at 60% of its rated load is not a new nor clever concept, it is an aircraft engineering principal long used in certified aviation.

At Oshkosh 2011 a LLC was introducing an auto engine conversion that used the same power rating at 6,000 rpm for its tiny 4 cylinder engine as the car did. This was accompanied by a brochure that claimed that this engine “Was the worlds most reliable engine turning a propeller.” (This made me think about the propaganda axiom that people are far more likely to question a simple exaggeration than a giant outright lie.) In spite of the clear reality that an engine with only one example that had exceeded 100 hours could only make such a claim as a joke, plenty of people looked at it, because Unicorns have that special magic about them. Among professionals who live in reality, there is little argument that the PT6A is the most reliable engine to ever turn a prop:

 If you study them, you can learn that ‘flat-rating’ is a concept that was central to the PT6 success story. Even in gas turbine engines, de-rating is the understood method of reliability. Only a Unicorn breeder would tell you otherwise.

Above, a real world proven Corvair system, the Wagabond cowl. Note that the air inlet is a simple 4.875″ hole in the cowl. This aircraft has flown at the record gross weight for Corvairs, it has always lived in Florida, it has a very large airframe with plenty on drag to spare, and yet it never ran hot, even with a front alternator and no inlet cooling rings. Why? because Corvairs have excellent cooling. builders can either utilize this success or they can ignore my suggestions. If they chose the latter and it doesn’t work, they rarely see the problem as a people issue. For some reason, a fraction of builders will focus on stories of people who has trouble with one-off ideas rather than looking at all the people who are flying proven ideas without issue.

Here is A good example. Yesterday, I spoke with a person on the phone who has been to colleges, Oshkosh and sun n fun, reads our website (or claims to) and has a slow-moving airplane project. In spite of the fact that he once actually flew in the Wagabond years ago, he told me that he had been speaking with another builder and they were looking at heat “problems” with slow flying planes. Really? Yes, he tells me that he thinks there is some issue. His perspective is not derived from the big picture of what works, it comes from focusing on a single plane that didn’t, and ignoring all the planes that work.

The plane that didn’t was the first highlander to fly on a Corvair. Instead of taking any of the designs that we have proven or any of the systems I know to work, the highlander builder opted to use a cowling from a Jabbaru and a Bing carb that ran lean enough in test runs to melt an egt probe. After ground running it without a cooling baffle box, the highlander was flown once and it was revealed to have $3,000 worth of detonation damage to the engine. Let’s contrast this with the experience of Zenith 750 builder/flyer Jeff Cochran. I spoke to Jeff just yesterday. He is rapidly accumulating time on his aircraft and now has 28 hours on it. He is thinking about flying it the 350 miles to CC#24 in a week. This is possible because his firewall forward is exactly how we teach people to build them, with our cowl and a good old MA3 aircraft carb. Jeff didn’t think it would be an issue to fly a couple of hours off a day because his aircraft works great and has moderate 345F CHT’s and the ideal 220F oil pre-cooler. Jeffs only question was if the weather was going to cooperate.

One man has a completely reliable machine, the other has a very expensive self-inflicted lesson on what will not work. A 750 is heavier, has more drag and clibs slower, so it is actually harder to cool than a Highlander by a long shot. Yet the 750 works well, and the one off highlander didn’t work at all. Jeff’s 750 is typical of the experience of our builders. I can point to people who have flown hundreds of hours in very high local temps, I can point out planes like the turbo Skycoupe, the Wagabond, etc, but some people are still going to perceive that cooling a Corvair is an unknown mystery. I have no explanation for this human issue. One thing is for sure: any one who wants to take advantage of what we have shown to work will be rewarded with success. Thermodynamics and chemistry don’t play favorites. If the set up is proven to work, it will work with the same reliability for you if you make a clone of it. The corollary is that thermo and chem don’t hate the guy who’s engine gets BBQ’ed from a Jabbru cowl and a german motorcycle carb, they are just as willing to cook the engine of anyone one who chooses to emulate the failed design. People may have distorted perceptions of what worked and what didn’t, but the laws of nature and the physical world never change in any of these experiments. Use our examples and have them work for you, and they will always work. Think you’re going to prove physics wrong on round two? Good luck with that. Most people would guess that a guy who has lots of trouble with his own path, would be more receptive to input the next time, but 22 years of working with homebuilders has conclusively shown me that the handfull of builders that have issues with their own work almost never switch over to proven systems. They are more likely to keep trying to find a way they were right all along.


Above is the nosebowl  from our Zenith 601XL. We started flying this in 2004, and it has worked on dozens of Zeniths and other airframes. As seen in the photo, this is how the inlets looked in 2006. Before this they looked just like the Wagabond inlets, just slightly smaller. The Wagabond cowl was done in 2005, and we never had any cooling issues. The inlet rings above were a result of seeing Dan Weseman put them on his wicked Cleanex. They function as an improvement, but they also make the cowl look a lot better. Note that I put them in a lot of planes in the last 7 years, but we never went back and put them in the biggest, heaviest plane in our fleet. Why? because the Wagabond didn’t have a need for them to function. The Wagabond, just like Jeff Cochran’s 750 has normal cooling even in a slow climb. (note that both aircraft have front alternators.) The cooling on corvairs isn’t marginal, it is very good and we have long proven this.

Above, How the inlet rings are made. The part in my hand is a PVC coupler for joining a 4″ iron pipe to a 4″ schedule 40 pipe. The ID of the big end is just below 5″ I trim these down in the lathe to thin them out and produce an inlet ring that gets bonded into the nose bowl. Even though the 601 and Wagabond cowls shown are original one piece models, we have ways of doing this on late-model splitting nose bowls. If you look at our main page, you can see photos of many planes with inlet rings and split nose bowls like Lynn Dingfelders 601, Louis Kantors, and Andy Elliott’s. I am going to convert this nose bowl to a two piece model after I install the rings and I will post pictures.

Above is a 4″ PVC coupler, one for schedule 40 to schedule 40 pipe. It has an ID of 4.75″ but I open it up to 4.875 or so. These inlet rings are generally 1″ deep and have a slight taper on the engine side. This is the size that I use on all aircraft other than STOL planes. The one above is for things like the Wagabond or a 750. notably Jeff Cochran’s 750 is now flying with the smaller size, and they work fine.

The story here is bigger than air inlet holes. The central question is about choosing to use proven information or needing to go a different path. There have always been a small minority of builders who for human reasons, want to “show people” or prove me wrong somehow. Little I say will deter these people from their path, even repeated lack of success. These are a small number of people who are more attached to proving something I am promoting as wrong then they are attached to being successful themselves. These people are not going to point out how well Jeffs 750 is working. If there is no issue, then there is no justification for their great effort, expense and time. The great majority of people only owe their allegiance to what has proven to work. If you plan on going flying with as little drama as possible, chose a path that has long proven to work.-ww

The Panther’s engine, worlds strongest Corvair flight engine.


Below are a few photos of Dan Weseman’s 3,000cc engine for his Panther prototype. The engine was assembled in our shop just before Oshkosh this year. At the time is had a fully reworked GM 8409 forged crankshaft. The engine was seen a photographed on the front of the Panther by thousands of people. Upon returning to Florida, Dan decided to utilize the same engine to flight test his new american made billet crankshafts. Dan pulled the engine apart in a few hours and re assembled the bottom end with one of his new cranks. I offered to help reassemble the rest and get it set up to run on our test stand. The engine is set for Dan and Rachel to run on 11/1/12. We are bringing the engine to demo run at Corvair College #24. I can make a very good case that this is the strongest Corvair flight engine ever built. This engine is purpose-built durability made from American components. It is the result of a very long evolution and gradual improvements to a proven design. Dan opted to build this no compromise engine to match the Panter’s aerobatic capability and strength. This engine cost about 50% of the price of a rotax 912. Every component on the Covair, with some small exceptions, was made in the US; just the reverse it true about the rotax. This challenges the myth that employing Americans in manufacturing is cost prohibitive.

Above, torquing the rod bolts in the engine upon reassembly. Even in this photo the crank looks clearly different from the GM unit. The 5th bearing is a Billet Dan unit. All the parts of the engine are the same as they were at Oshkosh with the exception of the Crankshaft and the bearings which were .010″/.010″ before and are standard now.

Above, a photo from a few weeks ago. The bottom crank is a GM 8409 core for comparison. The top two are new billet cranks with Dan bearings on the front. Dan brought them over to borrow my press to install the gear/bearing journal part onto the crank. After these are warmed slowly for an hour, they are pressed on the crank and allowed to cool slowly.  They are returned to the crank shop to have the slightly oversize journal ground perfectly concentric with the other 4 bearings. This is the process that Dan uses on his “second generation” 5th bearing. Obviously this is not field retrofitable to assembled engines like his very popular regular 5th bearing. However, on a new billet crank, or an engine or short block we build, this system has some advantages. All of the production engines and short blocks we sell are equipped with this 2nd generation design. Dan keeps both of his systems in stock and production. Because this is a CNC production part, the turn around time on a short block is quick. Pietenpol builder/flyer Kevin Purtee elected to change his crank after his July accident, and he opted to get a 2nd gen. bearing journal on a fresh crank and to have us assemble his short block before he does the rest at CC#24. Total time from order to case closed was about 12 days, and we are very busy right now. No one has to wait months to get a 5th bearing on their case.

Above is a close up of a 2nd Gen Dan bearing journal on a re worked GM crank. This is a 2700/2850 ready case we are putting together as a demo unit for CC#24. It will be for sale at the college. This is a precision 5th bearing mated to an inspected case, assembled with an OT-10 cam, available on an exchange or outright sale. This represents the wait time on a 5th bearing bottom end being reduced to zero days.

Above, the Panther’s engine on the test stand, about to be pre-oiled. The red parts are there to catch the oil that drips off the rockers during pre oil with the valve covers off. I choose to do it this way because I can watch each rocker to make sure it passes oil and that there are no delays in oil being delivered to the valve train. The catch pans are old valve covers modified by Vern. If you look closely, many of the fasteners used to mount test engines have been changed to tee handles and captured hardware. We are very serious about quick turn arounds on engine tests at the college. It is hard to see in the photo, but the gas tank has been modified to telescope down and there are casters under the mount to now allow it to smoothly roll sideways into my low trailer, even with an engine on it. When we get to #24 we plan to deploy the engine out of my trailer and have it running in 4 minutes flat.

Above, a look at my hangar at 10pm on Halloween.  In the foreground the Panther engine is 12 hours away from test run. Behind it is Grace’s 1965 Corvair van getting a transmission transplant.On the left is the old Wagabond, most of the way through a modification and update program. Grace and I bought the plane back, and have been working on it to have it be our test mule/demo aircraft for 2013.  CC#24 is the last public event we have for 2012. The season slows down quickly after that we most builders focused on family through the holidays. This is the time of year we make progress on special projects. The Wagabond should be done a few weeks after the College. I have told Dan that the aircraft will be at his disposal to flight test the Panther engine and log some hours on it before he installs it in his prototype. The past few weeks have seen the culmination of a number of things that took many years in development. We are headed to a very good college and I look forward to  several milestones of progress before the end of the year. I stood in the hangar at midnight an looked around for 3 more minutes before shutting off the lights at midnight. Most days my hand brushes over the switch on the way back to the house, just tired, but there are a handful of special days where I spend a minute or two to think about things to come, good times with good people and neat planes. 2013 is going to be a very good year.-ww.